Friday, September 10, 2010

Where is Mutual Fund Industry going ahead?

1. The regulator wants MFs to be traded more via exchanges and demat account and less ivia physical forms and cheques as in today

2. The regulator wants the trades to be done via broking terminals and not through AMC, or R&T offices as in today.

3. They investor has to cut a cheque favoring the broker and the broker will allot units post realisation of cheque as is done in case of equity shares today, the R&Ts will based on the order of the broker, credit daily units to broker account which would be pooled and then transferred to the clients demat account on T+3 basis

4. This means an advisor has to become a sub broker and route his trades that way and most probably lose his identity forever

5. In all this hopefully, the regulator may come out with a simple mechanism by which an ARN Holder can also participate directly 
without going through a stock broker. It remains to be seen whether the IFAs are even a point of botheration for the regulator even.

The regulator messed up big time with the entry load ban, which was a knee jerk reaction, and now is trying to desperately try to revive business, since MF trading via terminals did not take off either, they are now forcing funds to offer units in demat form. 

What they seem not to realise ( or do not want to realise ) is that MFs attract a different species of investors compared to stock investors, and also even the claim of stock brokers having so many points of presence via MFs presence is also circumspect because i frankly do not think stock brokers open terminal across towns to educate investors or to make them invest in fundamentally good stocks for long term but to simply speculate using the low cost brokerage/free first year demat as a lure for speculation.

The theory was that entry load ban would make the MFs more cheaper (true) and hence more people would rush to buy it( false), If there is no one to tell the investor about a product you might as well not have the product ( Remember NPS?, they are going to make it costlier and empanel distributors and pay some brokerage for it so that it can be sold ! The new PFRDA chairman has gone as far as saying that the idea that a good product will sell itself is wrong and that PFRDA made a mistake)

Economist J.M Keynes said "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" The fact is that MF sales are dipping, fact is that no one is interested in selling for charity, whether the regulator would change its mind or stick to its opinion is what we need to see.


Shankar,    shankar.yes@gmail.com


On 6 September, the Association of Mutual Funds of India (Amfi), the mutual fund (MF) industry body, wrote to the capital market regulator, the Securities and Exchange Board of India (Sebi), requesting the regulator to postpone the date of implementation for a recent Sebi ruling that mandates all asset management companies (AMCs) to allow investors to freely transfer their dematerialized MF units.
In a circular that Sebi issued a couple of weeks back, it had made it mandatory for all AMCs to implement the rule by 1 October. As per the new ruling, you will be able to transfer your MF units, held in demat form, to your spouse, parents, children or even near and dear ones directly from one demat account to another.

Boosting MFs’ stock exchange platform

It’s been nine months since Sebi allowed MF units to be traded on the stock exchanges, the National Stock Exchange (NSE) and the Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE), but the move hasn’t yet taken off. Less than 0.01% of the total inflows into MF schemes come through stock exchanges. Apart from getting stock brokers to sell MFs—in the absence of entry loads against equity shares that fetch them upfront brokerage—experts cite lack of awareness and the risks that brokers carry as the key reasons why the stock exchange platforms haven’t yet taken off.

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Time and again, Sebi has been taking steps to popularize the stock exchange platform. Some months back, Sebi allowed National Securities Depository Ltd (NSDL) and Central Depository Services (India) Ltd (CDSL) to convert existing physical MF units into dematerialized form so that they are transacted on the stock exchange. Now, Sebi has allowed these units to be transferrable. Some news reports say that Sebi also intends to make listing of all MF schemes on stock exchanges compulsory soon.
Sebi is expected to bring trading on MF units on a par with share trading. At present, MF units directly reach the investor’s account; the second phase will see units reaching the broker’s pool account first. Only when the client’s cheque gets cleared will the broker release the units from his pool account. As of now, since the units reach the client’s account directly, (but the broker initially pays out of his own pocket since the MF has to receive money on the day after punching the buy order), the broker stands to lose money if the client’s cheque (that takes about a couple of days to clear) bounces.
“Once the second phase kicks in, brokers will get units in their pool account. They will, therefore, transfer it to the unit holder’s account only after the money is realized. This should be a major boost to the MF trading platform on the stock exchanges,” says Rakesh Goyal, senior vice-president, Bonanza Portfolio Ltd, a Mumbai-based financial services company. Cyrus Khambata, senior vice-president, CDSL, said that the second phase will start in about two months.

What this means?

If you hold shares in demat form, you can transfer them to whosoever you want, provided the receiver, too, has a demat account. You can either sell the shares on the stock exchange during market hours or can transfer to someone during off-market hours as part of an off-market transaction (a buy-sell transaction done outside of market hours).
Transfer of MF units has been a grey area until now. Though the Securities and Exchange Board of India (Mutual Funds) Regulations, 1996, permit MFs to allow investors to transfer their existing MF units, fund houses have not allowed all unit holders to transfer their units, en masse. Since fresh units are continuously created, a transfer facility is not really merited. Only in select cases, for instance a unit holder’s death, have they allowed units to get transferred. In this case, the MF units get transferred to the second holder or the nominee. Or, say, you pledged your MF units to a bank for a loan and you default on the loan, the units get transferred to the bank.

How to transfer MF units?

When you buy and sell MFs, you essentially transact with the fund house. If you wish to give your MF units to somebody else, the easiest—and the only—way to do it is to redeem your units and gift the money.
After 1 October, you won’t have to redeem your MF units and will instead be able to enter into an off-market transaction directly with the person you wish to transfer your units to. On the other hand, when you sell your shares or MF units on the stock exchange, you don’t know who buys them.
An off-market transfer gets done through a special procedure. However, these are early days and it’s unclear as to how transfer of MF units will take place in an off-market transaction. For instance, most brokerages mandate customers to fill up a power of attorney (PoA) at the time of opening an account. A PoA restricts transfer of shares through off-market transactions; you can only transfer shares to a demat account in which the sequence of account holders is exactly the same as the account from which you are transferring your shares. In other words, you can only transfer to your own account, elsewhere.
Market experts say that to effect an off-market transfer, you will need to revoke the PoA, fill up the delivery instruction slip and submit it to your depository participant. There’s a cost attached—about 0.04% or about `15-25.

Who pays the exit load?

Among a few key issues is how would the MF industry charge exit loads. Many equity funds levy an exit load for premature withdrawal. Debt funds, too, levy exit loads to discourage premature withdrawals.
First, off-market transfer need not happen at the market price, though experts say that in many cases it happens close to the market price. Second, when unit holders redeem their units, the fund house deducts the load amount from the redemption value and returns the rest to the unit holders. However, when you transfer MF units (off-market transfer), MFs do not have a way to find out whether or not you pay the exit load.
“At present, the fund house deducts exit loads, which are used to meet costs incurred by the fund house. Once investors start transferring their units directly to other investors, who will remind the buyer to deduct exit load from the purchase price,” says a chief executive officer of an AMC who did not want to be named.
Some fund houses have a different view. The head of operations of a Mumbai-based fund house said that perhaps the industry may take a view to exempt transfer of units from exit loads. “Exit loads are levied on the units redeemed. In case of off-market transfers, MF units are not getting redeemed. They are in perpetual existence. Hence, the MF industry may come to a consensus to waive off exit loads in such cases.”
While this may ease operational issues, it could create a disparity between different classes of investors—those who hold physical units and those who hold demat units. In an industry that is still reeling under the removal of entry loads, this may only add to the present worries. That apart, the rationale of exit loads—to deter premature withdrawals—might get lost.

Can costs rise?

When off-market transfers start, MFs would need to track them as and when they happen; practically, every day. This is mainly to distribute dividends, if any, to the correct unit holder. This could be a problem if too many investors change hands and the fund house declares dividends in the interim.
At present, for units that get traded on the stock exchange MF platforms, the two main depositories, NSDL and CDSL, send regular information to all MFs’ registrars and transfer agents (such as Computer Age Management Systems and Karvy Computershare Pvt. Ltd). Called benpos, or beneficiary position, this gives information about the unit balance as on that day and the name of the unit holders who hold these units. While CDSL gives benpos on a daily basis—only to MFs—NSDL gives it once a week. Anything extra comes at a cost.
“If MFs were to take benpos daily, it could incur huge costs to the MFs. As the total expenses that we charge to investors on an annual basis are capped, the AMC will have to bear the cost,” said a chief of another fund house, who also did not want to be identified as the matter involves the regulator. Added work at the registrar’s end may also lead to an increase in their charges, which would further burden the fund houses, he added.

Who’ll deduct tax at source?

When non-resident Indians sell MF schemes, they pay tax deducted at source (TDS). For equity funds sold before a year, you pay 15% short-term gains tax. On other MFs, you pay 30% TDS if you sell before a year. You pay 20% TDS if you sell after a year. Since this is TDS, the MF deducts it and redeems the balance to a non-resident Indian (NRI) who submits a redemption request.
Once units get freely transferable, it’s unclear as to how the MF will recover this TDS from the NRI. As of now, there seems to be no mechanism that ensures this.
Sebi’s latest move, though, seems to have caught the MF industry off-guard. Although some fund houses privately admit there’s a lot of work to be done, many fund houses are hopeful of finding a solution. “Clearly, not doing anything is not the answer,” said an MF official, who heads operations in a bank-sponsored MF. He expressed confidence that a reasonable solution will be found. Hoshang N. Sinor, chief executive, Amfi says: “It is a good idea, but there are operational challenges in implementing this. We find that it will not be possible to implement this by 1 October. The matter doesn’t just involve MFs and their agents, but also depositories like NSDL and CDSL, and stock exchanges. All will get impacted and it bodes well for the system if all players concerned get elevated and benefit from this move.”

17 comments:

Galaxy of IFA said...

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Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

You are very much right that every semicooked deceission of SEBI is creating confusion amongst the IFAs. The fresh blood is loosing interest to enter into the profession and the experienced people are withdrawing themselves from this business.

And I strongly feel that this type of situtation is not good for MF industry and Indian Financial Market. I feel that the mouth publicity by large number of IFA was much more effective than advertisement in print or electronic media, and due to reducing number of IFA this effect of mouth publicity is loosing its strength.

And you are right that

Who is going to bell the CAT? and

What should be our next step ?

Regards
Saikat Sen
ARN 0402
Ranchi.

Anonymous said...

Comment from Kalyanaraman ARN 12881 Chennai:



The regulator is an autonomous body and even the Finance ministry cannot do anything to stop them from their idiosyncrosies.

AMC unfortunately are not united so cannot put up a threatening resistance.

There are too many distribution channels competing with one another to be united and resort to boycott of selling MF schemes.



Under these circumstances we have two extreme choice:

One extreme is hope against hope that when the regulator changes, he comes with an appropriate brief from the appointing authority to clear the mess and put the industry back on track without harming investors interest. The other extreme is give up.

However a via media solution is also available, if we play the game skillfully and get the blessings of powers be at all stages.

As the old adage goes if we cannot lick them join them.

If the regulator wants exchange traded MF schemes (God only knows why and how it can benefit retail investors) why not IFA galaxy start a broking house on a cooperative basis. This is a wishful simple statement and implementation may take a lot of efforts. If we are readfy with such a proposal and be able to get connectivity at a reasonable cost (note cooperative style)and be able to offer all the service which a broker can offer technologically viz on line trading, transfer, acct viewing etc. and at the same time retain the investor with us then this can be a winning solution. Is it possible for us to work on these lines before events over take us.



Thanks

T..Kalyanaraman
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Galaxy of IFA said...

Received from Mr. jagannadhareddy kottarvedu
Email: kjagannadhareddy@yahoo.com

Dear Mr.Sankar

I fully agrre with your mail and I am not happy wioth present trend
for MF Industry.The very idea/cocept of MF and its birth is quite different frm share market and it is my persnal feeling that both should not be mixed up and all ARN colleues should take up with a mega representation to AMFI only becaz child can go to its parent and not to others and the parent should take up to cocrened authorities for doing justuice to ARN members .It is for the parent to tkae care of children either bringup or to burry dead or alive. This is my innere feelingscoming from the heart with pain

Regards

KjAGANNADHA rEDDY ARN 29904

Galaxy of IFA said...

Received from Mr DIGVIJAY SINGH Email: singh3.digvijay@gmail.com

Dear Friends

Its time to be united and bring the change in the fast changing
world.we can not stop the goverment on changing the rules but we can
send them out in years to come .this is the one of the worst goverment
we have in our history.which focus on unemployment rather than
employemnt.for their own salary no rules and regulation but people
like you and me all the rules.because we work hard,we advise people,we are honest we dont do any bribe to politician or any officials of govt of india.let's be in touch and plan for a big event in delhi to prove the metal of dignity and integrity of professionalism.

JAY Hind
Digvijay singh

Unknown said...

falThis Country Last year the food Inflation goes to all time high all of the living cost is go high, but our community get the prize for the governmetnt No salary for you service any people fix the salary and get job, but we are only do the job and your investro feel best and give salary. thanking you

rajksk said...

It is a unfortunate scenario where SEBI brings one new circular each week trying to drive nail in the coffin of the distributors who are the strength of the Mutual fund industry. Also all the AMCs are not united and with no say in the matters concerning them. The Mutual fund Industry does not have a effective lobbying method in the corridors of power unlike the Insurance industry which is why MF houses are in the sorry state of affairs

raj k s k
ARN 32991
PHONE : 9341211059

B APPARAO said...

B APPARAO ARN;7123 FROM VISAKHAPATNAM. WHEN REGULATOR ISSUE EVERYTIME NO AMCS OPPOSED THE REGULATOR. ANY REGULATOR INSTRUCTIONS THE LOSER IS IFA. WE SAW LAST FINANCIAL YEAR AMCS PROFITS INCRESED. THE TIME IS COMING WHAT ACTIONS TAKEN IFA COMMUNITY.

Unknown said...

Hi,

We have already lost a lot and there is nothing to lose further. At lest now we must act on the following :

1. First and foremost we must get back our credibility and trust. everyone is brushing us like thiefs or robbers. We must put a stop to this.

2. We should get a clarity from regulator like white paper on the industry now and future road ahead. We cannot be surprised negatively every now and then.

3. I also welcome the suggestion given by Mr.kalyanaraman regarding common platform for IFAs. If it can be worked out. nothing like that.

Anonymous said...

Even I guess what is the next step by the regulator , yes , it is "STOP TRIAL COMMISIONS",

WHAT we are all going to do, we should stand united and show our protest,

Unknown said...

dear sir,
I think the regulator does not even care and listen for the opinion of advisors or asset management companies.Already mutualfund advisors are thinking of diverting to other products or other industry.No upfront commission will definitely ruin the industry and IFAs may think of alternate products.none of the investors are agreed to pay service charges.At this circumstances our ifa community will take steps to protest against this move with amcs.

regards
M.SURESH
ARN69917
9361807402

Anonymous said...

Like Greenpeace, we IFAs should have a signature campaign and put a petition to Sonia Gandhi making her aware of the ground realities and blunders committed by SEBI and SEBI's favoring the big broker lobby in the name of reforms, and request her intervene in the matter at the earliest.

Anonymous said...

We need to read this beautiful book WHO MOVED MY CHEESE.

Signature campaign is not bad though.

Dipankar Pattnaik
dipankar@alfaindia.com

Anonymous said...

Market is reaching its peak why not we redeem all the money from Equity Mutual Funds and book profit for our clients and teach all the fund house and Sebi a lesson by mass redemption.

Subash
Mumbai

Anonymous said...

Dear sir,
1 ) This sriram From Sivsari Premier Investments Pvt ltd
If SEBI said stop the upfront commission. Who do the
Advise. The same time sebi said all mutual funds are
To do trading in stock market there is the cost is there
For the customer to pay 0.50% for the buying M.F. scheme
for selling again he as pay 0.50% for the same if he redeem
after 1 year if he sell before that he as to pay two exit Load.
From AMC 1% and brokerage.
2 ) Sebi saying the there is the misspelling form the distributor
If the M.F. trading in stock market who will give the advise.

Galaxy of IFA said...

Comment Received from
Mr. coimbatore annadurai natarajan cna_1955@yahoo.co.in


When IFA Glaxy takes the pains for the welfare of the Mutual Fund Distributors, it is imperative that every one of the MFDs should first understand their situation both officially and non-officially. But at this juncture, we must note one point that there are no Individual Mutual Fund Distributors who are alone dealing in Mutual Funds. They are in one or the either way dealing in LIC, or Private Life Insurance, General Insurance etc.,. and hence the more agencies they have, it is the human tendency that if one agency or distributorship is truncated either by way of multiple reasons or by any major reason, there will not be any that much impact and whereas their income generation will be doubled by putting their efforts in such objects leaving alone mutual funds.

Now the question is what is going to be done by the Individual Mutual Fund Distrtibutors' community who are not dealing in either life or general insurance etc.,? From such MFDs, what I feel is that there will not be much opposition for whatever new rules implemented either by SEBI or by any other BODY because the number of such distributors is meager and lesser and easily countable.

There is only way that IFA should think of a national forum and to this extent, a national level committee should be formed and the committee should visit each and every metros and cosmos and conduct interactive sessions and if need be a signature condemnation meet against the governing bodies should be carried out and one day all the distributors should be made fall in before the HQs of SEBI for our grievance and for reconsideration of the errors. Since ours is a democratic set up, we should go in line with law of the land without exceeding the limits and at any cost we cannot take the law in our hands.

As such, let us convey our dissatisfaction over all to them democratically and feed our feelings in a gentle manner, since we are not going to get anything by fighting in the other way.

Thanking you very much for this opportunity to express my views.

Sincerely yours

c n annadurai
arn no 72403.

Unknown said...

When SEBI tried to meddle with Insurance Agents, the Regulatory body IRDA itself resisted and came to the rescue of Insurance Agents. Surprisingly here, AMFI is totally silent and has become a tool of SEBI. AMFI and MF-AMCs should come out openly with their views and explain to public that what SEBI is doing is not in the interest of Agents/stock Market/AMCs. When commissions are being paid to Postal/Insurence/Travel/Fuel/Cement/steel/Dairy/TextileIndustry/Automobile Dealers etc., why Mutual Funds only is being singled out ?
They have all delegated to proffessional
marketting people to reduce their enormous work load and expenditure.
SEBI is only doing big harm more to the Industry than to the Distributors. After series of large scale scams, public started commenting/questioning SEBI's intelligence and efficiency. Now to prove their existence, SEBI is trying to meddle with everything and spoil the time tested set up. SEBI has woken up from deep slumber and uttering nonsense ! Finance Ministry should rein in/scrap SEBI
before it is too late.

Nagaraj ARN 5746